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		<title>By: Grandad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grandad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee - I am at a bit of a loss to understand what you are saying here?  Are you saying that an apology is enough?  Are you saying that the guilty should remain in office after all they have done?  Are yous aying that it is right for the people of Ireland to pay one billion in compensation for the sins they didn&#039;t commit?
Incidentally, I am not suffering hurt.  I am suffering anger at an institutuion that still will not acknowledge in any practical way that they have done anything wrong.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee &#8211; I am at a bit of a loss to understand what you are saying here?  Are you saying that an apology is enough?  Are you saying that the guilty should remain in office after all they have done?  Are yous aying that it is right for the people of Ireland to pay one billion in compensation for the sins they didn&#8217;t commit?<br />
Incidentally, I am not suffering hurt.  I am suffering anger at an institutuion that still will not acknowledge in any practical way that they have done anything wrong.<br />
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		<title>By: Lee L</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/05/23/pleased-my-arse/comment-page-1/#comment-23099</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would it take for the author and others like him to be appeased. Should every church property be sold and then the church kicked out of the country? Would that appease his anger? Would he be satisfied if there were human sacrifices of those who are guilty? How about their families too? Would this then be enough? How about the slaughter of innocents? Would his conscience then be clear? Could he then move forward?

No. I&#039;m afraid that you will never get what you think you deserve. But any pay-off is an admission of guilt. Any settlement is an acknowledgement that the church and the government were wrong.  If this isn&#039;t enough for you, then I&#039;m afraid you need some therapy.

For while you had absolutely no part in the original incident(s) you do have a part in carrying the resentment long after the crime was committed. Why don&#039;t you look at your part in this resentment while you&#039;re trying to demonize everyone else. Acknowledge your own hurt. Acknowledge your own victimhood. Then grow up, become a man, and move forward. Your very life depends on your ability to forgive others who have wronged you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would it take for the author and others like him to be appeased. Should every church property be sold and then the church kicked out of the country? Would that appease his anger? Would he be satisfied if there were human sacrifices of those who are guilty? How about their families too? Would this then be enough? How about the slaughter of innocents? Would his conscience then be clear? Could he then move forward?</p>
<p>No. I&#8217;m afraid that you will never get what you think you deserve. But any pay-off is an admission of guilt. Any settlement is an acknowledgement that the church and the government were wrong.  If this isn&#8217;t enough for you, then I&#8217;m afraid you need some therapy.</p>
<p>For while you had absolutely no part in the original incident(s) you do have a part in carrying the resentment long after the crime was committed. Why don&#8217;t you look at your part in this resentment while you&#8217;re trying to demonize everyone else. Acknowledge your own hurt. Acknowledge your own victimhood. Then grow up, become a man, and move forward. Your very life depends on your ability to forgive others who have wronged you.</p>
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		<title>By: He came along the following morning and put holy communion in my mouth &#124; Joe Scanlon</title>
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		<dc:creator>He came along the following morning and put holy communion in my mouth &#124; Joe Scanlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will The shameful 800 Bock Clerical Abuse Victims in Their Own Words Rick Read This Grandad Pleased my arse Damien Catholic Church in Ireland Conor Systematic Evil Brian Catholic church in ireland Derry [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian:
&quot;Is there a way in which the Department of Education can pay its share, that doesn’t involve the money indirectly being taken out of the pockets of the people of Ireland?&quot;

Surely the Department of Education has records of who worked there at any point in time. There would have been appointed civil servants who dealt with certain channels of communication, i.e. from victims, lay-people and clergy in the institutions who were attempting to blow the whistle.

The clear line of communication and responsibility must be readily available, or are they running our Department of Education like some sort of cooperative? Find the responsible chain of command responsible and expose who covered up and who made the decisions to ignore or move the problem.

Have a tribunal, bring in the clergy and their very clearcut chain of command and responsibility. Hang them all out to dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:<br />
&#8220;Is there a way in which the Department of Education can pay its share, that doesn’t involve the money indirectly being taken out of the pockets of the people of Ireland?&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely the Department of Education has records of who worked there at any point in time. There would have been appointed civil servants who dealt with certain channels of communication, i.e. from victims, lay-people and clergy in the institutions who were attempting to blow the whistle.</p>
<p>The clear line of communication and responsibility must be readily available, or are they running our Department of Education like some sort of cooperative? Find the responsible chain of command responsible and expose who covered up and who made the decisions to ignore or move the problem.</p>
<p>Have a tribunal, bring in the clergy and their very clearcut chain of command and responsibility. Hang them all out to dry.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grandad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 18:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain - You got stuck in my spam trap!  You are more than welcome back if you have a few billion to spare.

I have reached the stage where I am no longer surprised at &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; that shower will come up with.  Why not blame the abuse on the British legacy?  It is an insane theory but frankly it is no better nor worse than most of the other shite they come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain &#8211; You got stuck in my spam trap!  You are more than welcome back if you have a few billion to spare.</p>
<p>I have reached the stage where I am no longer surprised at <em>anything</em> that shower will come up with.  Why not blame the abuse on the British legacy?  It is an insane theory but frankly it is no better nor worse than most of the other shite they come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming a bit late to this, but I don&#039;t know if you heard Woods&#039; comment on Marian Finucane on Saturday.

In this, he tried to blame all the abuse on the British legacy
(I kid you not).  I couldn&#039;t believe what the man was saying (but on another level, it&#039;s all too believable)

Absolutely staggering in its condescension and wrong-headedness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming a bit late to this, but I don&#8217;t know if you heard Woods&#8217; comment on Marian Finucane on Saturday.</p>
<p>In this, he tried to blame all the abuse on the British legacy<br />
(I kid you not).  I couldn&#8217;t believe what the man was saying (but on another level, it&#8217;s all too believable)</p>
<p>Absolutely staggering in its condescension and wrong-headedness</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Ambassador</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bad Ambassador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes you think Woods and Ahern were conned into picking up the tab?

I&#039;m more inclined to believe Bertie knew exactly what he was doing but was more interested in the votes he could win than fairness for either the tax payers or the victims. But would you expect anything else from that crook?

You can be sure el-Berto was counting on the elderly constituents in Dublin Central who would think &quot;Ahh sure Bertie/Fianna Fail looked after the church that time - I&#039;ll give them my vote&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes you think Woods and Ahern were conned into picking up the tab?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more inclined to believe Bertie knew exactly what he was doing but was more interested in the votes he could win than fairness for either the tax payers or the victims. But would you expect anything else from that crook?</p>
<p>You can be sure el-Berto was counting on the elderly constituents in Dublin Central who would think &#8220;Ahh sure Bertie/Fianna Fail looked after the church that time &#8211; I&#8217;ll give them my vote&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxi Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxi Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m as shocked and horrified as everyone else about what has happened, but not in the least bit surprised at the attitudes of the government and the abusers.

Not in the least.

I am however surprised that others find it hard to believe the reaction from the government etc.  What else have we come to expect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m as shocked and horrified as everyone else about what has happened, but not in the least bit surprised at the attitudes of the government and the abusers.</p>
<p>Not in the least.</p>
<p>I am however surprised that others find it hard to believe the reaction from the government etc.  What else have we come to expect?</p>
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		<title>By: Capt Con O&#039;Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt Con O&#039;Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have to return to Ireland shortly. Its clear my country needs me. And I won&#039;t be in a good mood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have to return to Ireland shortly. Its clear my country needs me. And I won&#8217;t be in a good mood.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grandad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xbox - I included the snippet of audio just in case anyone thought I was making it up.  It is just so ridiculous, and it shows once again how how out of touch they are.

Brian - That is a difficult one, and that is why I suggested the use of party funds rather than using the national coffers.  After all, the national funds belong to the Survivors too, so they are going to end up paying for their own compensation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xbox &#8211; I included the snippet of audio just in case anyone thought I was making it up.  It is just so ridiculous, and it shows once again how how out of touch they are.</p>
<p>Brian &#8211; That is a difficult one, and that is why I suggested the use of party funds rather than using the national coffers.  After all, the national funds belong to the Survivors too, so they are going to end up paying for their own compensation?</p>
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