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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/12/12/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-21855</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last word D enial.</description>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/12/12/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-21852</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GD - thats Christopher moncktons site the mans a legend http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2007/09/25/questioning-20th-century-warmth/ &lt;- another nice article showing warming isnt anything out of the ordinary

TT - it says he got 10,000 for writeing a book in the 90&#039;s and some money for speecehs much like al gore gets 2500 a person for shakeing some hands got a nobal prize (lawd) for a film has written at lest 1 book on the subject and has invested in any number of companys that will benefit greatly from cap and trade *sigh* money money money the CRU at the heart of climategate made over 25 million in grants from the government and its been said by researchers in the climate field you &lt;em&gt;will not &lt;/em&gt;get research grant now unless you tow the global warming = man made line the government is by far the biggest contributor to science so if a politician would like you to push a issue its not beyond the relms of possibility you will do it for your pay check...I don&#039;t think you really want to play the gravy train card both sides can play that quite well and at the end its mostly he said she said crap.

All the same it seems no matter what is said you wont even consider it  just repeat the chant &quot;consensus&quot; and &quot;big oil&quot; so im wasting my time think im going to go back to laughing at the Copenhagen summit thats trying to save us all by flying and driving around in more than 1500 limos and private jet&#039;s while getting free hookers then telling us we need to stop eating meat flying  haveing ice in our water and swallow more tax&#039;s...It will be hard saving the world after all (for some).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GD &#8211; thats Christopher moncktons site the mans a legend <a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2007/09/25/questioning-20th-century-warmth/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2007/09/25/questioning-20th-century-warmth/</a> &lt;- another nice article showing warming isnt anything out of the ordinary</p>
<p>TT &#8211; it says he got 10,000 for writeing a book in the 90&#039;s and some money for speecehs much like al gore gets 2500 a person for shakeing some hands got a nobal prize (lawd) for a film has written at lest 1 book on the subject and has invested in any number of companys that will benefit greatly from cap and trade *sigh* money money money the CRU at the heart of climategate made over 25 million in grants from the government and its been said by researchers in the climate field you <em>will not </em>get research grant now unless you tow the global warming = man made line the government is by far the biggest contributor to science so if a politician would like you to push a issue its not beyond the relms of possibility you will do it for your pay check&#8230;I don&#8217;t think you really want to play the gravy train card both sides can play that quite well and at the end its mostly he said she said crap.</p>
<p>All the same it seems no matter what is said you wont even consider it  just repeat the chant &#8220;consensus&#8221; and &#8220;big oil&#8221; so im wasting my time think im going to go back to laughing at the Copenhagen summit thats trying to save us all by flying and driving around in more than 1500 limos and private jet&#8217;s while getting free hookers then telling us we need to stop eating meat flying  haveing ice in our water and swallow more tax&#8217;s&#8230;It will be hard saving the world after all (for some).</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/12/12/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-21851</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hmmm, your comment seems a bit spammy. We&#039;re not real big on spam around here.&lt;/strong&gt;

Please go back and try again. 

This is the shit that comes up after spending 5 minutes typing. Fuckin&#039; smartass cunt whoever he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hmmm, your comment seems a bit spammy. We&#8217;re not real big on spam around here.</strong></p>
<p>Please go back and try again. </p>
<p>This is the shit that comes up after spending 5 minutes typing. Fuckin&#8217; smartass cunt whoever he is.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/12/12/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-21850</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it shouldn&#039;t. Google Richard Lindzen for example. Bought and paid for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it shouldn&#8217;t. Google Richard Lindzen for example. Bought and paid for.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandad</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/12/12/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-21846</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TT - Don&#039;t worry about the tone.  I feel that way myself sometimes,  Heh!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry about the mess with the links.  I have added the facility in the edit area to edit and add links, which should make things a bit simpler?  I hope?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think the page that sums up a lot of my concerns is&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/reprint/open_letter_to_un.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT &#8211; Don&#8217;t worry about the tone.  I feel that way myself sometimes,  Heh!</p>
<p>Sorry about the mess with the links.  I have added the facility in the edit area to edit and add links, which should make things a bit simpler?  I hope?</p>
<p>I think the page that sums up a lot of my concerns is<a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/reprint/open_letter_to_un.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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Thats a horrible long report though so in all honesty i didn&#039;t read it all yet but iv gone to the effort of finding proof to back up my points....As for your last &quot;lol 100 scientists&quot; its an indication that your beloved consensus of all the scientists in the world exist only in your head and the UN totaly trustworthy reports. btw i have a really good bet on man united winning a European super league title in 30 year&#039;s time you want in ? seeming that your able to pluck predictions out of the air with out any need (or way) to prove it i might as well get in on the action and make some money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/transit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/transit.html</a><br />
Thats a horrible long report though so in all honesty i didn&#8217;t read it all yet but iv gone to the effort of finding proof to back up my points&#8230;.As for your last &#8220;lol 100 scientists&#8221; its an indication that your beloved consensus of all the scientists in the world exist only in your head and the UN totaly trustworthy reports. btw i have a really good bet on man united winning a European super league title in 30 year&#8217;s time you want in ? seeming that your able to pluck predictions out of the air with out any need (or way) to prove it i might as well get in on the action and make some money.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying now that the &quot;settled science&quot; of climate change which 100&#039;s of billions of scientists believe in can not be proved and we just sorta have to have faith? well lest its an honest reflection of your position on it if nothing else.

As for the ice cap ya its been down to a record low (of a 30 year record which as you point out isnt even a drop in the ocean to how old the damn thing is so really do we even know what is &quot;normal&quot; for it?) in 2007 however it grew back to &quot;normal&quot; or near normal in 2008 and now its droping down less than &quot;normal&quot; its almost a cycle how ever the antarctic by all accounts is gaining ice &quot; A paper to be published soon by the British Antarctic Survey in the journal Geophysical Research Letters is expected to confirm that over the past 30 years, the area of sea ice around the continent has expanded.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/&lt;/a&gt;

As for your &quot;Change doesnt happen this rapidly!!!!!&quot; crap well thats apperently not true either.  &quot; The time span of the past few million years has been punctuated by many rapid climate transitions, most of them on time scales of centuries to decades or even less. The most detailed information is available for the Younger Dryas-to-Holocene stepwise change around 11,500 years ago, which seems to have occurred over a few decades.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying now that the &#8220;settled science&#8221; of climate change which 100&#8242;s of billions of scientists believe in can not be proved and we just sorta have to have faith? well lest its an honest reflection of your position on it if nothing else.</p>
<p>As for the ice cap ya its been down to a record low (of a 30 year record which as you point out isnt even a drop in the ocean to how old the damn thing is so really do we even know what is &#8220;normal&#8221; for it?) in 2007 however it grew back to &#8220;normal&#8221; or near normal in 2008 and now its droping down less than &#8220;normal&#8221; its almost a cycle how ever the antarctic by all accounts is gaining ice &#8221; A paper to be published soon by the British Antarctic Survey in the journal Geophysical Research Letters is expected to confirm that over the past 30 years, the area of sea ice around the continent has expanded.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/17/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing-not-shrinking/</a></p>
<p>As for your &#8220;Change doesnt happen this rapidly!!!!!&#8221; crap well thats apperently not true either.  &#8221; The time span of the past few million years has been punctuated by many rapid climate transitions, most of them on time scales of centuries to decades or even less. The most detailed information is available for the Younger Dryas-to-Holocene stepwise change around 11,500 years ago, which seems to have occurred over a few decades.<br />
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		<title>By: tt</title>
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		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the tone last night. 7 pints of the black stuff and a couple of Bushmills.  If you are waiting for definitive proof before you accept the reality then you will wait for ever. It isn&#039;t something you can prove in a lab experiment. You have to go with what is known. The polar ice cap has been around for millions of years. Recently 40% is gone and in 30? years it will all be gone. Climate change just doesn&#039;t happen that fast naturally. As for arguing with the conspiracy theorists of the world. What&#039;s the point? They will never be convinced. 100 scientists? Phewey! Thousands of climatologists working independantly all over the world have reached the same conclusion. It&#039;s happening and its man made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the tone last night. 7 pints of the black stuff and a couple of Bushmills.  If you are waiting for definitive proof before you accept the reality then you will wait for ever. It isn&#8217;t something you can prove in a lab experiment. You have to go with what is known. The polar ice cap has been around for millions of years. Recently 40% is gone and in 30? years it will all be gone. Climate change just doesn&#8217;t happen that fast naturally. As for arguing with the conspiracy theorists of the world. What&#8217;s the point? They will never be convinced. 100 scientists? Phewey! Thousands of climatologists working independantly all over the world have reached the same conclusion. It&#8217;s happening and its man made.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandad</title>
		<link>http://www.headrambles.com/2009/12/12/out-of-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-21830</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TT - [had to edit D&#039;s comment to get links to work!]  Response?  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT &#8211; [had to edit D's comment to get links to work!]  Response?  </p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn it some error&#039;s on that post which i cant edit &quot;by a satelite over 16 year&#039;s it increased by 4 watts&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/14/scientists-send-letter-un-give-futile-climate-change-battle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/14/scientists-send-letter-un-give-futile-climate-change-battle&lt;/a&gt; letter to the UN by 100 scientist
Can you make a single word  link on this blog or what?  &lt;_&lt; &gt;_&gt; wont seem to work for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it some error&#8217;s on that post which i cant edit &#8220;by a satelite over 16 year&#8217;s it increased by 4 watts&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/14/scientists-send-letter-un-give-futile-climate-change-battle" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/12/14/scientists-send-letter-un-give-futile-climate-change-battle</a> letter to the UN by 100 scientist<br />
Can you make a single word  link on this blog or what?  &lt;_&lt; &gt;_&gt; wont seem to work for me</p>
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