Comments on: Ten years or five lives http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/ Rambles around the head of an Irish Grandad Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: King's Bard http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22722 King's Bard Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:40:51 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22722 You're right of course Captain. I fact sexuality seems to treated as part of the human condition. Although in rural areas sex outside marriage is very much frowned upon. You’re right of course Captain. I fact sexuality seems to treated as part of the human condition. Although in rural areas sex outside marriage is very much frowned upon.

]]> By: Cap'n Con http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22720 Cap'n Con Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:27:35 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22720 Hi KB thats an interesting point- but do Buddhists instill a guilt complex about sexual matters among young people? As far as I am aware Buddhists are more in tune with nature and natural instincts and have a philosophy built around mankin's place in the scheme of things where catholicism is built around an unnatural view of mankind... What do you think? Hi KB thats an interesting point- but do Buddhists instill a guilt complex about sexual matters among young people?

As far as I am aware Buddhists are more in tune with nature and natural instincts and have a philosophy built around mankin’s place in the scheme of things where catholicism is built around an unnatural view of mankind…

What do you think?

]]> By: King's Bard http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22719 King's Bard Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:30:05 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22719 Captain Con I think your theory of abuse being caused by clerical celibacy falls down when you consider that Buddhist monks and nuns are also celibate and during my time in Thailand I have never heard of anyone being abused by them. Most boys are required to spend at least 3 months attached to a monastery so the opportunity presents itself but it still doesn't seem to happen, I think there's something intrinsically wrong in the Catholic attitude, not to sex, but to the abuse of children. Captain Con
I think your theory of abuse being caused by clerical celibacy falls down when you consider that Buddhist monks and nuns are also celibate and during my time in Thailand I have never heard of anyone being abused by them. Most boys are required to spend at least 3 months attached to a monastery so the opportunity presents itself but it still doesn’t seem to happen,
I think there’s something intrinsically wrong in the Catholic attitude, not to sex, but to the abuse of children.

]]> By: Kirk M http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22718 Kirk M Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:48:24 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22718 Jefferson Davis is right. The sentence itself may be ludicrous but his ten years in prison will bring him equal payment paid nearly every single day he's there. That is, if he lives the full ten years...which he probably won't. Jefferson Davis is right. The sentence itself may be ludicrous but his ten years in prison will bring him equal payment paid nearly every single day he’s there. That is, if he lives the full ten years…which he probably won’t.

]]> By: mick http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22715 mick Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:37:16 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22715 Plus 8 murders by offenders whilst out on bail - presumably there were mitigating factors there too! .-= mick´s last brainfart .. <a href="http://diaspora.ie/starship/2010/02/farm-stay-holidays/" rel="nofollow">Farm Stay Holidays</a> =-. Plus 8 murders by offenders whilst out on bail – presumably there were mitigating factors there too!
.-= mick´s last brainfart .. Farm Stay Holidays =-.

]]> By: Jefferson Davis http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22714 Jefferson Davis Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:49:44 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22714 That's a fucking insane ruling, if you ask me! They should sentence him to infinite life sentences, demasculinise him, and have some burly homophile come in everyday to rape him! There is no excuse, no matter how horrendous one's childhood might have been, that could excuse anyone from doing that or anything else. The problem these days is that no one is held accountable for his or her actions. In the old days, a man that would do such a horrific act would have had a bullet in his head or a knife in his chest five seconds after the neighbourhood and family found out. Sadly, we've had several cases in the states that were similar. If your jails are anything like ours, he'll be dead within a month anyway. As you may know, criminals may be thought of as the scum of the earth but they hate rapist, especially child rapist, as badly as the rest of us. This PC shite is on my last nerve! :) .-= Jefferson Davis´s last brainfart .. <a href="http://jeffersondavis.us/2010/01/lady-in-black/" rel="nofollow">Lady in Black</a> =-. That’s a fucking insane ruling, if you ask me! They should sentence him to infinite life sentences, demasculinise him, and have some burly homophile come in everyday to rape him!

There is no excuse, no matter how horrendous one’s childhood might have been, that could excuse anyone from doing that or anything else. The problem these days is that no one is held accountable for his or her actions. In the old days, a man that would do such a horrific act would have had a bullet in his head or a knife in his chest five seconds after the neighbourhood and family found out.

Sadly, we’ve had several cases in the states that were similar. If your jails are anything like ours, he’ll be dead within a month anyway. As you may know, criminals may be thought of as the scum of the earth but they hate rapist, especially child rapist, as badly as the rest of us.

This PC shite is on my last nerve! :)
.-= Jefferson Davis´s last brainfart .. Lady in Black =-.

]]> By: Grandad http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22713 Grandad Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:36:45 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22713 <p>Captain - In the good old days, this country was riddled with complexes.  Having been taught by The Brothers, I know where that came from.  Sex was something filthy and the mere thought of it meant eternal damnation.  I was once hauled to the headmasters office because I had been spotted talking to a Spawn of the Devil [a girl] one evening.  I remember going to Retreats where every single sermon was on the evils of women and sex.</p> <p>Thank God I turned out normal.</p> <p>*cough*</p> Captain – In the good old days, this country was riddled with complexes.  Having been taught by The Brothers, I know where that came from.  Sex was something filthy and the mere thought of it meant eternal damnation.  I was once hauled to the headmasters office because I had been spotted talking to a Spawn of the Devil [a girl] one evening.  I remember going to Retreats where every single sermon was on the evils of women and sex.

Thank God I turned out normal.

*cough*

]]> By: Captain Con http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22712 Captain Con Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:54:25 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22712 Certainly the church and its grip on Irish society, the constant drip of condemnation of normal human sexual urges and of course its completely unnatural demand that priests and nuns remain celibate has had a huge part to play in the sort of psychoses you see among the religiously deranged. It explains the sadism of nuns who turn vicious and lash out at the daily reminder of what is denied them- children. With priests in religious orders it isn't homosexuality that made them abuse children- it is an eruption of an unnatural suppression of normal human urges. A twisted psychology suppressed until it breaks out and damages those under their control. Rape is always about control and never about sex. The catholic church has damaged Ireland psychologically over centuries and the social mess we ended up with is a direct result of it. 'Fight the real enemy' the girl said. She was right. And then she went nuts. Certainly the church and its grip on Irish society, the constant drip of condemnation of normal human sexual urges and of course its completely unnatural demand that priests and nuns remain celibate has had a huge part to play in the sort of psychoses you see among the religiously deranged.

It explains the sadism of nuns who turn vicious and lash out at the daily reminder of what is denied them- children.

With priests in religious orders it isn’t homosexuality that made them abuse children- it is an eruption of an unnatural suppression of normal human urges. A twisted psychology suppressed until it breaks out and damages those under their control. Rape is always about control and never about sex.

The catholic church has damaged Ireland psychologically over centuries and the social mess we ended up with is a direct result of it.

‘Fight the real enemy’ the girl said. She was right. And then she went nuts.

]]> By: Grandad http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22710 Grandad Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:56:24 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22710 <p>Not Twitter - I like the idea of the ball-bag/vinegar treatment!  With a bit of luck, he will be raped himself over the years.  Let's see how he likes it?</p> <p>TT - Heh!  Did he have a bad dose of the squits?</p> <p>Maxi - By all accounts if you can prove you were drunk/high at the time, it is a major mitigating factor.  I can't understand why.  If you rape someone, I don't give a shit if you are otherwise a saint - you still deserve the full punishment.</p> <p>Kerryview - As always, you are right.  The justice system here is fucked up and weighted purely on the basis of who you are [and who you know].</p> <p>Cap'n - A very interesting and plausible theory.  Once again we can blame the Catholic Church for that.</p> <p>Kate - It seems to be particularly bad here though.  Mind you - I did hear about your policeman [PC Shiny Buttons!] who took great delight in fining a van driver for blowing his nose while stopped at traffic lights, and fining another bloke £50 for littering [the latter accidentally dropped a £10 note].</p> Not Twitter – I like the idea of the ball-bag/vinegar treatment!  With a bit of luck, he will be raped himself over the years.  Let’s see how he likes it?

TT – Heh!  Did he have a bad dose of the squits?

Maxi – By all accounts if you can prove you were drunk/high at the time, it is a major mitigating factor.  I can’t understand why.  If you rape someone, I don’t give a shit if you are otherwise a saint – you still deserve the full punishment.

Kerryview – As always, you are right.  The justice system here is fucked up and weighted purely on the basis of who you are [and who you know].

Cap’n – A very interesting and plausible theory.  Once again we can blame the Catholic Church for that.

Kate – It seems to be particularly bad here though.  Mind you – I did hear about your policeman [PC Shiny Buttons!] who took great delight in fining a van driver for blowing his nose while stopped at traffic lights, and fining another bloke £50 for littering [the latter accidentally dropped a £10 note].

]]> By: Kate http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-22709 Kate Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:03:58 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/2010/02/02/ten-years-or-five-lives/#comment-22709 The whole world over Grandad - its a very sad place...... I get tired of getting angry.. .-= Kate´s last brainfart .. <a href="http://www.iramble.co.uk/2010/01/electric-shocks/" rel="nofollow">Electric Shocks!!!</a> =-. The whole world over Grandad – its a very sad place…… I get tired of getting angry..
.-= Kate´s last brainfart .. Electric Shocks!!! =-.

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